Copyright Spammers - Are these people idiots? Or is there a method behind the madness

[JohnnyDavis]

In the last 6-12 months, I've noticed that a crazy amount of links have been uploaded by spammers. We're talking millions of Copyrighted links, often without any kind of explanation concerning the content. Nothing whatsoever. Like these clowns:

http://sharew.org/showthread.php?3926547-So-nice/page3&
WARNING - TURN OFF JAVASCRIPT ON SHAREW IF YOU INTEND TO VISIT THE SITE - FULL OF POP UPS!!!!!

There must be over 100,000 Wupload links in this post alone but who's going to download any of them with the title 'So Nice'??!!! What's seriously the purpose of this?!

Yet, I've noticed that these links are being aggregated by FilesTube in a ridiculous amount. Most of the content appears to be leeched, old and really rather random - are these spammers making money from this?! Look at these random releases (with no explanation on sharew - site where it's scraped from in FilesTube):

Adele - 21 (over 100,000 Search Results - most of the links posted by the spammers on sharew.org to Filesonic, Wupload).

http://www.filestube.com/search.html...+21&select=All

Matt Duke One Day Die 2011 (14,000 + Search Results all pointing to links on Filesonic, Wupload)

http://www.filestube.com/search.html...011&select=All

Manchester Orchestra Simple Math 2011 (21,000 Search Results all pointing to links on Filesonic, Wupload)

http://www.filestube.com/search.html...011&select=All

This seems totally moronic to me and a massive waste of bandwidth. Which raises the separate question, how is it possible to upload hundreds of terabytes a day even with bots? The BANDWIDTH must be totally RIDICULOUS!!! Or stolen? And surely Filesonic, Wupload should know about this?

Thus, is the plan to steal a load of content off other uploaders? Post the links like crazy even if the forum is completely inappropriate and hope it gets aggregated?! Is there really any money in this approach??!!

JohnnyDavis Reviewed by JohnnyDavis on 16th Nov 2011. Copyright Spammers - Are these people idiots? Or is there a method behind the madness In the last 6-12 months, I've noticed that a crazy amount of links have been uploaded by spammers. We're talking millions of Copyrighted links, often without any kind of explanation concerning the content. Nothing whatsoever. Like these clowns: http://sharew.org/showthread.php?3926547-So-nice/page3& WARNING - TURN OFF JAVASCRIPT ON SHAREW IF YOU INTEND TO VISIT THE SITE - FULL OF POP UPS!!!!! There must be over 100,000 Wupload links in this post alone but who's going to download any of Rating: 5

[Xali]

Is there really any money in this approach??!!

Why else would they do that, they are earning but at the same time killing thousands of forums with their retarded spam, i know at least 4 forums where the users stoped submitting content due the spammers posting one thread every min for hours,,, with just 10 views every post, but if they spam for 6 hours that's 360 post x10 views = 3600 views, let's say just 1000 downloads from those 3600 views and since they are using themaposter/multiposter etc etc,. it took them 3hours to set the auto-poster and they spammed 10 forums for 6 hours that's 10,000 downloads, not bad right?.

[cvrle77]

You math is very flawed,lol
You cant get 1000 downloads from 3600 views, from shitty forums, and that even lowers, when u post same topic over and over again.

What you don't realize, is, this is a money game for filehosts. Literally, there are people from other competition filehost, who purposely sabotage other hosts, by opening 100s of accounts, and doing remote upload, then posting shit links to both kill their servers and reputation..., that is what is going on...

5-7 people can easily put out of order any filehost today, except Rapidshare, megaupload, and other non-incentive filehosts

[Xali]

For that you only need one guy, doing remote uploads, and seems like that's what is killing Wupload.

A single VPS remoting 5GB files and an asshole copying those files over and over in multiple account can fuck several servers in one day, you don't need to spam retarded files to fuck with the reputation of a filehost, you just need to fuck with their diskspace and their reputation with both uploaders and downloaders is gone, take a peak at the Wupload thread.

[manic32]

You math is very flawed,lol
You cant get 1000 downloads from 3600 views, from shitty forums, and that even lowers, when u post same topic over and over again.

What you don't realize, is, this is a money game for filehosts. Literally, you have payed people from other competition filehost, who purposely sabotage other hosts, by opening 100s of accounts, and doing remote upload, then posting shit links to both kill their servers and reputation..., that is what is going on...

5-7 people can easily put out of order any filehost today, except Rapidshare, megaupload, and other non-incentive filehosts

filehosters have, anti-redundancy systems they don't double the same files,
otherwise the servers would be full of the same shits

[cvrle77]

There are many guys who are transferring upto 100TB from one filehost to another..best way is to use their own tools. But when u say to them, to limit, or cut off their remote tools, they think that will impact their earnings, while they don't realize it does impact, as long it is enabled, but not the way how would they like...

[Deadlysting]

Wupload started as a promising host, but now it's the home of the leeching morons.
Take a look at this thread and you will see Wupload's "uploaders":

http://www.besthostingforums.com/102...d-wupload.html

After asking the cheerful "monkey", I realised that there's no way in hell he's going to remove this spam tool. He suggests ways to keep the files from being RU, but that's about it.

I left it over a month ago, because it was facing problems, with pretty much everything. Right now, its problems have not been solved, but even worse, they have multiplied.

I guess he enjoys owning a host piled with crap.

[factor]

That's why there should be a fair rank system.

[JohnnyDavis]

This is all extremely interesting particularly the viewpoint that it could be other rival filehosting services responsible for this.

@manic32 - With the greatest respect Manic, I suspect Filesonic & Wupload are full of the same content. Look at those results for Adele etc, nearly all of them are on Wupload and Filesonic. That's over 100,000 links for the same album!!!! And this isn't isolated either!!! We're talking tens of millions of links for maybe 1,000 different music albums/singles (mostly old) all leaked on highly inappropriate forums (porn boards etc). Something's very suspicious here!!

I've just looked at sharew.org and I think these spammers/whoever they are could be easily uploading in excess of 1 million files per day (150, 200 threads a day with 4 pages of posts and probably 20-30,000 thousand files in each thread!!) which is pretty amazing considering some of these files are in excess of 500mb each. Surely this will affect Wupload and Filesonic from a bandwidth perspective and really undermine their service long term??!!


If it's spammers and they're that technically minded, surely they'd be better served leeching newer, more popular content and actually providing descriptions for what they're uploading. Unless they're receiving huge amounts of downloads via aggregation sites like FilesTube, they're not going to earn much money and their approach seems beyond moronic to me. That's why I think there's possibly some truth to the sabotage point.

@Deadlysting - Some very interesting points and thanks for the link! I think Wupload and Filesonic need to be far more proactive on this and add MD5 hashes into a blacklist to stop identical URLs from being uploaded again especially if they've received a DMCA. Otherwise, their service will be clogged full of shit with huge strain on their servers and reputation. It would seem Wupload's reputation is slowly going down the toilet!! They won't last much longer if this continues!

[qloolp]

That's why there should be a fair rank system.

There is no fair rank system in this shit business.