Selling a Database

[Mr Happy]

In relation to this thread http://www.besthostingforums.com/11-...-database.html


I don't care about this case or individual I'm arguing the fact that you can (on condition you can provide the necessary proof which in cases may require putting it live on a temp domain) sell a database.


This is ridiclous that your not allowed sell a Database on KWWH.
It says you can under the rules section Goods

Only goods in relation to web sites in general may be sold.
The seller must have full rights and permission to sell the item in question. In certain cases proof may have to be provided to prove these re-sell rights. examples include but not limited to are: templates, scripts, themes, applications, or tutorials written by the seller and not third parties, custom gfx banners, avatars and icon packs

A database is in relation to a website. If the seller was the owner of the site and sold the domain but not the database then of course he has full permission to sell the database separately. It says "examples include but not limited to" and you can't argue a DB isn't related to a webiste.

It doesn't say anywere your not allowed. I know as I wrote that rule over a year ago. It took me 3 days of modifying to get it right.

As far as that thread or member go I don't care or have any connection with him/her or the site/DB but he should be given a chance to provide proof and then sell if he wants.

Mr Happy Reviewed by Mr Happy on 6th Jan 2012. Selling a Database In relation to this thread http://www.besthostingforums.com/11-marketplace-buy-sell-trade/121753-forum-95k-posts-6-5k-members-database.html I don't care about this case or individual I'm arguing the fact that you can (on condition you can provide the necessary proof which in cases may require putting it live on a temp domain) sell a database. This is ridiclous that your not allowed sell a Database on KWWH. It says you can under the rules section Goods A database is in relation Rating: 5

[RT]

I knew this thread is coming lol. How can someone prove that he does indeed own the database?

[Mr Happy]

OK lets take SpongeBob who's site is linkplz and has now gone offline. Say he doesn't want to run a DDL anymore but want's to run a link protector site on the domain. I can easily buy the DDL database off him as it's no longer needed. In such a case I wouldn't ask for proof.


If that guy puts the database up online on say a .co.cc domain for a few days or sends a copy to a staff member who knows what they are looking at then their's no problem as it's proof.

[vizoomer]

OK lets take SpongeBob who's site is linkplz and has now gone offline. Say he doesn't want to run a DDL anymore but want's to run a link protector site on the domain. I can easily buy the DDL database off him as it's no longer needed. In such a case I wouldn't ask for proof.


If that guy puts the database up online on say a .co.cc domain for a few days or sends a copy to a staff member who knows what they are looking at then their's no problem as it's proof.

this can be done in actuall .. and if so i have a DB to sell too

Edit:- RT is right too ... the cons in this are more than the pros to solve them

[RT]

Alright sure, you can do that. But, how do you know that he won't sell it again to some other buyer? you can see how that only can create various issues for members here.

I can hack a website, get it's database and claim that's its mine. All you wanted was a screenshot of the DB on the guy's computer, is that really good enough proof?

[Mr Happy]

Alright sure, you can do that. But, how do you know that he won't sell it again to some other buyer? you can see how that only can create various issues for members here.

Hang on. Why can't he sell a Database he owns more than once?

You often see coders selling a theme. Some say only one copy will be sold, some say only 5 copies will be sold. Some don't put a limit on it. It's their theme and their right to chose.

If a coder can sell a script or a template more than once then a webmaster is perfectly within his right to sell a Database more than once. I admit it will affect the price and he's unlikely to sell any but he can if he wants.

If he puts the site online or gives a copy to JmZ (who's staff) and confirms it's ok then their's no problem.

And databases are so huge there can be numerous problems what happen, problems that even the seller could be unaware of. This could lead to a lot of complications and a very unhappy buyer.

But you've the same problem in selling a large website. You can have problems but if the seller provides support in getting it online then their is no problem.

[Sp32]

And databases are so huge there can be numerous problems what happen, problems that even the seller could be unaware of. This could lead to a lot of complications and a very unhappy buyer.

[jayfella]

how do you know that he won't sell it again to some other buyer?

And databases are so huge there can be numerous problems what happen, problems that even the seller could be unaware of

The same could be said for anything digital. May as well close the market all together, huh?

[RT]

@jay: You can't sell a domain twice, you can't find domains on the thing for free and sell them. You actually can prove that you own a domain. The marketplace is for a lot of things, I just think selling DBs would create a lot of issues for people, I can sell you a broken DB with some issues you don't even know about till it's too late.

@happy: Of course, if you agree on that. But, lets say I "promise" you that the DB will be sold to you only, do you really trust someone to do so? I could sell it to someone else and you won't even know about it.

[Mr Happy]

@jay: You can't sell a domain twice, you can't find domains on the thing for free and sell them. You actually can prove that you own a domain. The marketplace is for a lot of things, I just think selling DBs would create a lot of issues for people, I can sell you a broken DB with some issues you don't even know about till it's too late.

I can sell you a broken website or script too. It can and does happen. Look at the whole Pi0 thing and the script he sold and the guy not able to get it working about 2-3 weeks ago. A DB is no different and usually easier to fix and get working than a custom script.

@happy: Of course, if you agree on that. But, lets say I "promise" you that the DB will be sold to you only, do you really trust someone to do so? I could sell it to someone else and you won't even know about it.

That's the same for a theme though. I "promise" to sell only one copy