Selling a Database

[jayfella]

I'm pretty sure anything could be stolen or re-sold or any other manner of dishonesty. This topic really serves to enforce the fact that buying online is a risky business and caution should be used. I prefer to live in a world where innocent until proven guilty is exercised but we all know that isn't possible online.

I would say a reasonable outcome would be that whilst Mr Happy has a perfectly valid argument, it isn't one that is likely to pop up on a regular basis, and so isn't worth the juggling act of creating a new intricately worded rule.

[innocent_kid]

lifetalk no offence but as u said we wud be looking at 1 in 20 or 40 sales that wud be quality isnt it same case of hosting section sales here... seriuosly lotttsss off noobs and creep hosting sales thread here only rare are good and stable.... so if thats allowed for giving chance to good ones this should be too?..

and as u say potential problems arise of sale.. u cant deny fact that they arise for almost any kind of sales online...

its not abt benifit its more about giving chance to legimate and quality people as we do for our hosting section too..

[Lifetalk]

What I'm saying, is out of experience. You cannot compare web hosting to database sales, to be very honest. As much of a valid point you have, it's more of a general point that applies to any sale online, literally.

My point all along has been about probability. We would have to shut down the entire marketplace if we were to look at my points from a global/broad perspective. It's about what is more risky and what does not benefit as much as it costs.

The webhosting industry is, like any other, not without its risks. In this case, though, members CAN exercise reasonable skill and care should they wish to. If they go down, 90% of the time it's their failure to foresee (what they could have foreseen) a potential problem. The general rule in the hosting industry is 'if it's too good to be true, it usually is'. The rule actually applies to anything online, but of late, it's just spot on for the hosting industry. People have come to a point where they now expect oodles and oodles of features for nothing, literally nothing. The recent demise of RapidSpeeds, for example, is something that most should have seen coming; you can not offer what they offered at the price they offered. It just is NOT possible, not now. Maybe 10 years after, maybe.

With a webhost, it's pretty easy to figure out who to trust. Domain and whois lookups, traceroutes, google searches on domains/emails/nicknames/paypal emails, plans, pricing, etc. It'd take a few minutes, tops, for an average member who's capable of exercising reasonable care and judgement to spot whether an offer is good or too good to be true. People are often blinded by cheap pricing for unreal features. If they go down, they're the only ones to blame. And a quick look at the hosting section here shows that there are a lot of quality providers; the 1 in 20/40 rule does not apply there. There may be a couple that are newbies/kids, etc. But you see a majority providing a good service. So no, the database issues don't really apply to the hosting 'industry' on KWWH.

As much as we're all for giving everyone a fair chance to do business here, we have to draw the line somewhere. A number of legitimate people will lose out, sure, but we're looking at the bigger picture. Greater good for the maximum number of people.

[innocent_kid]

but if we consider that like some known person is selling his/her database like we all know jayfella owns extremecoderz.com (just scrolled up and picked tbh i didnt knew lol ) if he comes selling its database some day... i dont see harm in that i mean i dont see any harm in that?
let it be just anyone selling some database claiming its his... as long as buyer and seller are satisfied i dont see harm?
i mean as u said it wont take 2 mins to go to google and search first that is that website database available over internet for free or not?
if its private database of a site that dosnt exist anymore and person is proving with a dummy site that database is real... than i dont see harm in selling... sorry i am not much of knowledge in this .. but plz correct me if i am wrong

i am jsut taking ur point of googling about product
and same rule apply here too
"if its too good to be true than it is...." if someone is selling stolen it wont be that hard to find out that either.. as there wud be probably news on google somewhere abt that website being attacked or somthing for sure!!


edit: my point being that if its stolen database probably its related news wud be on google...so it just takes some time googling.. before allowing it to be sold?
and there arnt that many database sales on KWWH anyway so it wont be much trouble too...

[DLow]

My god

I have never seen so many present staff, and ex staff within the same thread since El_J & St0ne owned KWWHunction.




And like databases have not been sold before:

[bxflow]

You guys can always allow only a user who still owns the domain corresponding to the database to sell it. For those who wish to keep domain and sell the DB.

For example linkplz.com, spongebob still owns the domain and he can prove it. So maybe if a user does not own the domain anymore he cannot sell it?

[ItsmYarD]

Yeah but bx, what if the domain expired and the user wishes to just sell the database? That should still be allowed eh? Also what if there are two owners and one wishes to sell the db but doesn't own the domain?