Good point Phamous. Thats why Im asking for contributions to the setup as well as the design. I just know there are a thousand and one members here that do have a sense of community here on KWWH and that all the crap they speak is just blurb ... but deep down, they all want the same thing! If its not gonna be MF, its gonna be BH, or some other host. What I want is to go back to the days when "warez" if you can call it that, was about sharing what you found on the net and giving it freely without relying on hosts to support your greed for more RAM, HDD, or a ticket to see Justin Bieber! hahah. .... Bring back old school forums and let us be a group on our own without all the media hype or cash whores or status!.... Lets do it just for being ABLE to do mit!