FileShoppe - With instant payouts! Not your typical file host

[FShoppe]

Does this FileShoppe pay for domain sales from a different affiliate user's link?

I'm afraid I do not understand your question. What do you mean by domain sales?

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welcome to KWWH
u pay anything for referrals?

If by referrals, you mean the signups of premium users, no because there is no such thing as a premium account with FileShoppe. The whole system is pay as you go.

However, we do have something called 'share n earn'.

For example, if you find some digital good (a file) that you believe may be popular, you can share this link and recieve a portion of the sale. The portion is currently set at 10%.

So if you find a file worth $1.00, you will recieve $0.10 for each sale. All you need to do is share the link (with your merchant ID encoded into it) and for every purchase of that file, you will receive your payment instantly!

Even 'free' files have a download value (US$0.01 / 100MB). Shareing a 100MB file for the minimum $0.01 purchase price would still earn you $0.001 which is also paid directly into to your account instantly. You would just need to wait until you have at least $0.01 to take it out :-)

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Back to this 'referal' topic. We are open to suggestion with regards to how we could set up some sort of reward program. Since we do not sell premium account, we cannot reward on that basis, but if you have any ideas please let us know.

FShoppe Reviewed by FShoppe on 4th Apr 2012. FileShoppe - With instant payouts! Not your typical file host www.FileShoppe.net Update: Though this should be obvious. Copyright material is NOT allowed without the express permission of the copyright holder. FileShoppe is a pay-per-download file host running two primary services. 1. Paid downloads, where the uploader sets their own price and retains 100% of their earnings less our $0.01 per 100MB fee. 2. Free downloads, where the content is made freely available to downloaders with certain restrictions imposed (such as reduced speed). These Rating: 5

[Zero - HosterBin]

I got my first pay out from carrot pay after 1 week!

I recived $50 via Paypal the payment came from Carrot Pay!! Finally a host that pays out with out having to bother them directly.!!!

[FShoppe]

Glad you've managed to withdraw your earnings.

In case anyone else is confused, we pay out instantly on every download!

You can withdraw your earnings from CarrotPay to bank accounts and Paypal but this is seperate from us.

However, we are now offering 'Site Coins'. This is money, held in the CarrotPay system, that is spendable only at FileShoppe. We will exchange these for real cash and will pay out to Paypal.

Updates coming soon.

[ShadowHunter]

Sooo glad I found this filehost. What a fantastic concept! Upload a file of less than 100Mb and charge $0.20 for the file to be downloaded. And you earn $0.19 for yourself and FileSoppe earn the other $0.01 commission!

I had all but signed up UNTIL I read thier T&C's:

Acceptance of FileShoppe Site Coins

"Users agree to accept FileShoppe site coins as payment for digital goods sold at $1 or less. FileShoppe site coins can only be spent at FileShoppe on digital goods with values of $1 or less. FileShoppe agrees to redeem all site coins at face value (conditions apply - see section 'Redemption of Site Coins'). Users understand that Site Coins may expire and cannot be redeemed or spent after the date of expirey."

This means you need to charge at least $1 for your files otherwise your "money will be exchanged into FileShoppe credits which can only be used where? Ding Ding Ding, Our survey says "FileShoppe", It's the top answer!

But FileShoppe, I thought you said "NO money goes through FileShoppe nor do we HOLD ANY monies, it goes DIRECTLY into your carrotpay account".

So how is it possible for you to intervene and change money into credits?

You don't own CarrotPay by any chance do you??? Since CarrotPay is supposed to be a Merchant and Transacts with cash and not FileShoppe Credits! Could you explain? I'm a bit slow and confused!

There's a silver lining though. If you ever manage to reach $40 of FileShoppe credits, they'll pay you the face value in cash.....wayhey!

Sounds like a minimum payout threshold to me.

But FileShoppe, I thought all money went straight to.....Oh Never Mind!

Redemption of Site Coins

FileShoppe agrees to redeem site coins at face value of $40 or more. User agrees not defraud FileShoppe and make no attempt to accumulate site coins through dishonestly or use of falsehoods. User agrees to redeem site coins if and only if the accumulations of site coins are the result of genuine sales. FileShoppe reserves the right to refuse redemptions of site coins if any fraud is suspected.

So FileShoppe you have blatantly lied to potential affiliates about how your program works in regards to the selling of files...I suspect you're associated with CarrotPay in one way or another as well...I'm not going over the thread again but are your servers also located in Hong Kong (CarrotPay is based there)?

It's shady looking to be honest, and i've never heard of it until today!

I'm sick of filehosts raping my ass, DONT BOTHER WITH THIS HOST!

You're welcome for the digging KWWH Community!

Ps: This is verbatim and proof of his contradictions "Payout Method 3. CarrotPay supports split payments! This is how we can guarantee instant payout. Funds go directly to your account via a split payment. When the downloader makes their payment, the funds are instantly sent to you directly without ever going through us."

[FShoppe]

Hi ShadowHunter,

I think you have misunderstood what this term is about.

Please note there is a distinction between site coins, and money.

Money is money!
This is cash that can be spent anywhere. It is like having money in your bank account, your wallet, your paypal. We have no control/say over your money held in your CarrotPay account.

Site coins are like coupons
We issue coupons to encourage sales of files and take up of our service. For exmaple, a shop may issue a $10 coupon to be spent in their store. It is not the same as cash as it cannot be spent OUTSIDE of the store.

So what do those terms mean?
Obviously, if you want to sell a file, you won't be too happy if you receive coupons and not cash. So if you recieve a coupon as paymet for your files, we will redeem it for REAL $$$ cash. We place a few limitations to avoid fraud.

For example, we give away $1 (site coin/coupon) to all new users, and $5 to all new content providers. If we actually gave out cash, then it would open it up to abuse and people could simply suck us dry. We have a minimum threshold to prevent this and the only way to accumulate $40 in site coins is through sales of their files.

We also limit the acceptance of site coins up to $1. So if you upload a file and charge $1.01 or more, site coins cannot be used to pay for that item at all (not even in part). We do this because we do not wish our content providers to feel ripped off if all they receive are site coins.

We have been 100% truthful, and I hope this explantion clarifies our position.

Thank you for your time.

[ShadowHunter]

[quote=FShoppe;1599534]Hi ShadowHunter,

I think you have misunderstood what this term is about.[/quote]


I understand perfectly!

Please note there is a distinction between site coins, and money.

Money is money!
This is cash that can be spent anywhere. It is like having money in your bank account, your wallet, your paypal. We have no control/say over your money held in your CarrotPay account.

Then, if it is true that you have NO control over money, then how can you issue "Coupons" to affiliates who sell thier files for under $1? Eg: I sell a file for $0.20 and FileShoppe gives me $0.19 worth of FS credits instead.

I thought the money we earned from file sales go DIRECTLY & INSTANTLY into our "merchant" (CarrotPay), if that was true then FileShoppe couldn't do this!!!

You say this on you FileShoppe introduction on page 1:


"Instant Payout
FileShoppe pays out instantly on every premium/paid download. Funds are cleared into your merchant account the instant the downloader begins their download!"

Lie number 1.

So what do those terms mean?

Obviously, if you want to sell a file, you won't be too happy if you receive coupons and not cash.

Damn right! Especially after you told us we get our cash straight into our CarrotPay account, which isn't the case. You never mentioned anything about FileShoppe credits/coupons, and led us to believe this.

I had to find out about this on your T&C's page.

VERY DISHONEST!

So if you recieve a coupon as paymet for your files, we will redeem it for REAL $$$ cash.

Once you reach $40!!! A payout threshold! But again, you lead people to believe thier payouts are instant, which isn't true!

Lie number 2.

We place a few limitations to avoid fraud. For example, we give away $1 (site coin/coupon) to all new users, and $5 to all new content providers. If we actually gave out cash, then it would open it up to abuse and people could simply suck us dry. We have a minimum threshold to prevent this and the only way to accumulate $40 in site coins is through sales of their files.

See what I wrote above!


[quote=FShoppe;1599534]We also limit the acceptance of site coins up to $1. So if you upload a file and charge $1.01 or more, site coins cannot be used to pay for that item at all (not even in part). We do this because we do not wish our content providers to feel ripped off if all they receive are site coins.[/QUOTE]


You said people could charge up $200 for thier files!


"Priced Files
Uploaders can release their files for a fee and maximize their earnings!You can charge between $0.01 and $200.00 for your digital goods! The bandwidth fee remains static at $0.01 per 100MB."


Lie number 3

"We do this because we do not wish our content providers to feel ripped off if all they receive are site coins

Please don't try to make a fool out of me and the good people of KWWH!!!

This means content providers are ONLY able to accept FileShoppe credits/coupons/coins/crap!


Lie number 4.

We have been 100% truthful, and I hope this explantion clarifies our position.

Thank you for your time.

Lie number 5!!!

[FShoppe]

I'm afraid you have not understood. I will try to explain this better.

SiteCoins are a feature offered by CarrotPay. You can see their documentation here on how to implement it: https://secure.carrot.org/en/GB/documents.

Basically, one of the features CarrotPay offer is the ability to issue 'SiteCoins' which are a type of coupon spendable only with a specific Merchant account. The purpose of these SiteCoins is diverse. Like with coupons, we use them to encourage users to try the premium service for free! This is simply an exploitation of the services available with CarrotPay. We do the same thing with their 'split payment' facility, which is not offered by other gateways.

When we issue a site coin, these are held in the user's CarrotPay Wallet and when they visit our site, they will see this amount as an available balance. It will not be visible when visiting other websites (as no other website would accept it).

So, not a lie.

Damn right! Especially after you told us we get our cash straight into our CarrotPay account, which isn't the case. You never mentioned anything about FileShoppe credits/coupons, and led us to believe this.

I had to find out about this on your T&C's page.

VERY DISHONEST!

Not at all. We will still REDEEM this 'free money' at face value. If you receive $40 of site coins, then you can exchange for REAL cash.

Obviously we do not wish our users to end up with worthless coupons, so it is for this reason we offer to redeem them, making them almost as good as cash! They do have value! It is also clearly labelled in our T&C so I fail to see the dishonesty.

We also set the limit to $40 simply to prevent abuse and fraud. We give away $5 site coins just to sign up as a content provider and $1 for downloaders. If we redeemed at face value for whatever value, we would be open to abuse where people would simply cash in their coupons instead of using them for what they were intended. The $40 limit should help prevents this while not incurring any significant delay to the content provider, considering they may very well have already taken the first $6 in give always, and only needed to earn $34.

You said people could charge up $200 for thier files!

"Priced Files
Uploaders can release their files for a fee and maximize their earnings!You can charge between $0.01 and $200.00 for your digital goods! The bandwidth fee remains static at $0.01 per 100MB."


Lie number 3

You have really misunderstood this one.

Files can be priced between $0.01 and $200, but site coins can only be spent on files UNDER $1.

For example, a file sold for $0.50 may be paid for with a site coin. However, a file that is sold for $2.00 may ONLY be paid for with REAL CASH. So if you are selling files over $1, you will not receive any site coins at all.

Please don't try to make a fool out of me and the good people of KWWH!!!

This means content providers are ONLY able to accept FileShoppe credits/coupons/coins/crap!


Lie number 4.

I am not trying to make a fool out of anyone. You have just misunderstood our model. I believe you are tying to find something quite nefarious, but I assure you, you will find our system to be quite transparent and honest. It is the premise of our system.

And no, we do not ONLY accept site coins. We accept REAL cash in conjunction with our own issued site coins. Of course we have a preference for CASH as this is how we would make money. We make nothing from accepting site coins. In fact, for each site coin we issue, we stand to lose that upon redemption.

SiteCoins are intended only to help encourage down loaders to go that final step to make a purchase in the hopes they will become repeat customers.

Another thing you may want to think about is, have you ever seen a shopping mall where you can buy gift vouchers which can be used in any of the stores in the mall? This is not much different.

We have been 100% truthful, and I hope this explantion clarifies our position.

Thank you for your time.
Lie number 5!!!

I have indeed been truthful, but I apologize if I have been unclear. If you have any further misunderstandings or queries, I would be more than happy to help clear things up.

Thank you for your time.

[shiningnoy]

Excuse me.
How to let the files keeping alive forever?
I saw you said those inactive files will be deleted after 60 days.
But I want to make the files storage time unlimited.
Is there any solution about it?

[FShoppe]

Hello Shiningnoy,

Thank you for your query.

Regarding files being deleted, our policy is NOT to delete files after 60 days of inactivity. What we do is PROTECT files from deletion if if they have been active in the last 60 days. It is not neccassary to delete all files.

As it stands, we have no deleted any files off our server other than a few peices of malware/hacking related scripts.

However, we will soon be releaseing a 'pro' service for content providers. This pro service is a paid for subscription service providing a number of benefits and features over the free service. This includes, gauranteed storage space.

We expect thhe basic fee would be US$20 /month and would provide the following:

- White label download pages (customized branding of download page including logo, page color and even your own domain name)
- Dynamic file linking
- Protect 200GB of inactive files (minimum)
- more!

Regarding storage, this means if you have 400 files of 1GB each (400GB total) of files uploaded, and only 100 files have been active in the past 60 days, you would have 300 files at risk of deletion. If you are a pro user on the basic $20 /month, a further 200GB would be protected from deletion which means only 100GB of files would be at risk. In order to protect that extra 100GB, the pro plan may need to be upgraded. This represents a storage fee of approx 10GB per $1.

We beleive our pricing to be quite competitive but also realize that there are cheaper storage solutions out there. However, all files uploaded are replicated throughout the network spanning accross the globe. You can be sure your files are safe with us as they are stored in multiple servers in multiple countries, each server maintaining a RAID configuration. With that kind of redundancy and availability, I don't think you can find a more robust system for less.

I hope this answers your query.

[praveer]

The host is great. I will be using it real soon.

FShoppe hope you remember me