User from GFY tries to take down file hosts. Not with a DMCA, but...

[VuVu]

As stated before, you guys will never understand it. You're taking my context far from what it is. I personally have no connection to any file locker nor have I run one myself. Alot of the people here, easily the majority don't. People whom earn with DDL sites do not make much, if you got nothing to do in everyday life it's a nice introductory to making money on the internet. As for payment processing you seem to of failed to read mopar546's comment in regards to payment processors. Most of my comments are not to argue you with guys I'm just trying to show you that you can try but you will never prevail. The "push a button" statement...if anything ever went to court and you told a judge you pressed a button and had all your evidence in a few seconds...your lucky if they don't toss you out.


Since I know you guys will be bringing it up, I have never had one payment frozen. However I do not use paypal and never will. I have never posted on any media site whatsoever, there is no time for that when work is to be done. Sorta funny how you say you guys hide the reason they lost their payment processing but like posting it on the site...I could go on.

Me and some others in this thread have tried to explain it to you. Though you guys take it as hostility, advice is not hostile. Just to ask though, why are you on a forum that has alot of "pirate hosts/file lockers" ? You guys running the whole keep your friends close and your enemies closer? It will be a good show when Megabox is back up and running so you guys actually are picking on someone the same size as you seeing as you like to pick on the little guy. It's only a matter of time before paypal takes a look at the gfy thread and see's all the personal information and threats you guys are pushing.

When I'm into any form of discussion and a party starts name calling that's where I say I'm done with it. For you to resort to that just shows your upset and or mad about this. Good to see you're taking a page out of Eric's books.

[filerking]

VuVu I was thinking of replying to your post piece by piece, then realised you had made so many mistakes it was pointless. No you wouldn't of had a payment frozen if you didn't have any connection to a file locker or hadn't been caught yet. And thinking Robert needs to take on Kim Dotcom is foolish. KD is in the cross hairs of far bigger people.

What Stop File Lockers is doing, is pointing out to processors those who break their rules. The processors look at the evidence and make decision. His team have a huge task on their shoulders and they know it. Much like painting the Golden Gate Bridge. But if it's not painted, it rusts and falls into the bay.

The job however is getting easier, more are joining, more funding and he's gaining credibility with processors and making new contacts. His success can be measured here by all the anti posts. From you and others. I personally have no connection to any file locker nor have I run one myself. A lot of the people here, easily the majority don't.

Here's the solution for file lockers and uploaders who don't want to fall foul of the actions Stop File Lockers are taking. For File Lockers they find a payment process that allows them to process payments to download pirated content including porn. Or turns a blind to the reports. Then the uploaders go to those sites. Until Visa tell the bank to pull the account.

Or they take effective measure to ensure they stay within the contract they agreed with the processor. which means no piracy and no porn. If you're thinking of replying with "It can't be done." Then I will reply now with. "Then you can't process payments."

If you want to discuss, maybe we could discuss the contract/processing point. Because everything else is pointless.

[Chasingstar]

After a lot of research & digging, I have discovered that yes in fact Robert King has been renaming otherwise legal files with illegal titles so he doesn't get burned for uploading them. {fraud} He then makes a screen shot of the alleged "illegal file" & posts them to his site http://stopfilelockers.com/ {slander} Implying that Paypal sells "bestiality" & "pedo". He digs another hole by posting email replies from Paypal violating their email privacy policy. http://coldcopy.com.au/paypal-merry-...aints-ignored/

I looked up a few definitions regarding the content on his sites & his conduct then sent him robert[at]fastwebdomination.com, robert[at]adplus.com.au the following letter:

Robert King,
It has come to my attention that you have been manipulating payment processors with fraudulent pretenses. I intend to collaborate with file host site owners, affiliates, & premium membership purchasers to file a class action law suit. Allegations & actions sought may include, but not limited to:
1.) Computer Fraud and Abuse Act: 18 U.S.C. ? 1030(e)(2), 18 U.S.C. ? 1030(a)(2), 1151, S.Rept. 112-91 ? 2111, 18 U.S.C. 1030, 18 U.S.C. ? 1030(d)
2.) Electronic Communications Privacy Act: 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510
3.) Communications Act: 47 U.S.C. ?? 553 and 605
4.) National Stolen Property Act: 18 U.S.C. ? 2314
5.) Misrepresentation of ? claimant: ? 202.3(a)(3)(ii)

I will also work with Paypal providing proof of your fraudulent activities, violation of privacy policy, & recommend that they seek legal action against you.

To which he has not replied.

[VuVu]

Just to be safe before he decides to delete anything from the site, let's back it up.

Paypal conversations: http://www.freezepage.com/1350258367OKIGMSWSBQ

He posted the email on his site to gain a little support from his adult web supporters...lol. I would be more then happy to see if these "web masters" really had actual signed rights to use the content on their sites.

Edit: I don't think Robert knows you can charge a visa or mastercard without paypal.

[justpeace]

Or they take effective measure to ensure they stay within the contract they agreed with the processor. which means no piracy and no porn. If you're thinking
of replying with "It can't be done." Then I will reply now with. "Then you can't process payments."

Complete idiocy, and not even Paypal is going to accept such a ridiculous demand. First, let's discuss what "no piracy" means.

Some might assume that no piracy only means stay whithin the law, but SFL like other copyright maximalists argue that the amount of infringing content on a file host or the number of infringement claims are equivalent with facilitating piracy.

No service provider can't even hope to comply with such a condition unless it (1) Implements filtering/monitoring of all uploaded files; (2) Bans use of file encryption; (3) Require paper identification before any user is granted the privilege to upload/download and (4) Bans any anonymous use -- including free accounts and connections from VPN or IP obfuscating services.

Your proposal is therefore unworkable, unless you expect Paypal and other processors also to ban VPN, proxy and other services who can't guarantee no piracy.

Your logic proves in a nutshell why The Pirate Party's criticism of copyright enforcement is well founded.

Copyright enforcement can't coexist with the right to privacy and anonymity.
Your side got almost all it wanted in the DMCA, and even now you are bitching about the safe harbor being "unfair" to copyright holders.

If you want to take down anything, you can send the file host a valid DMCA notice. And if it's too expensive for you, perhaps you should hire more staff or find another job.

[Chasingstar]

Thanks for the input! I think if everyone moves in this direction the black cloud of oppression might go away. Discussions in other groups about this always try to point back to ?.
File hosts sell memberships for premium access, what 3rd parties do is on them. MD5 tags are there for a reason. What SFL is doing is not fair to anyone that wants to monetize original content.
Anyone that wishes to file a complaint may do so by email here:
abuse@cloudflare.com, ipadmin@websitewelcome.com, abuse@ausregistry.com.au

& By web:
https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/

When I sent a copy of the letter to: abuse@privacyprotect.org they didn't feel so inclined to protect his privacy anymore.

PrivacyProtect.org Abuse Desk
2:08 AM (17 hours ago)

to me,
Hello,

Kindly note that Privacy Protect is just a service which disables Registrant's actual details to be displayed in the whois look up of the domain name.

We request you to update us with the complaint in a feasible manner.

Kindly be aware that any abuse complaint should be given to the registrar of the domain name. You may find the registrar details of any domain name at http://domainwhitepages.com/

Regards,
PrivacyProtect Abuse Desk



Ticket Details
Ticket ID: UDF-869-75189

That led to:
http://whois.ausregistry.com.au/whoi...=1350232106752

Whois response for coldcopy.com.au:


Domain Name coldcopy.com.au
Last Modified 27-Jun-2012 15:20:17 UTC
Registrar ID TPP Wholesale
Registrar Name TPP Wholesale Pty Ltd
Status ok
Registrant KING, ROBERT JAMES
Registrant ID ABN 39026527516
Eligibility Type Citizen/Resident
Eligibility Name KING, ROBERT JAMES
Eligibility ID ABN 39026527516
Registrant Contact ID KIRO1215
Registrant Contact Name Robert King
Registrant Contact Email robert@fastwebdomination.com
Tech Contact ID HBY9KKN
Tech Contact Name Robert King
Tech Contact Email robert@adplus.com.au
Name Server ns61.hostgator.com
Name Server ns62.hostgator.com


Always note when writing SFL/CC's network servers that they can be held liable for his fraudulent & illegal content.

Also, report his facebook/twitter for displaying illegal pornographic content:
http://www.facebook.com/ColdCopy
https://twitter.com/coldcopy

[luches]

yes this how it should be done. he is misspresenting everything in a way that benefits him using every means possible from violating the TOS and AUP of the same companies he is cooperating with ! thats gotta come and bite him in the .... . i fully support this course and will help in every possible. he is trying the pull a black curtain over everything remotely related to file hosting. god knows how many legitimate businesses he has destroyed so far

[VuVu]

Also, report his facebook/twitter for displaying illegal pornographic content:
http://www.facebook.com/ColdCopy
https://twitter.com/coldcopy

Those are the old facebook and twitter

http://www.facebook.com/CopyControlHQ
https://twitter.com/CopyControlHQ

I do actually have a friend of a friend who runs a pretty large company overseas who is considering putting into a stopstopfilelockers.com

[Chasingstar]

Looks like he's running scared, grasping @ straws. He still wont disclose how much more than $6,057.50 was donated entirely by Manwin, owner of all porntube sites.

Last Updated On:18-Sep-2012 12:28:37 UTC
Expiration Date:09-Jun-2013 07:31:04 UTC
Sponsoring RegistraromainPeople, Inc. (R30-LROR)
StatusK
Registrant ID:90b4178726be119d
Registrant Nameomain Manager
Registrant Organization:Copy Control Pty. Limited
Registrant Street1O Box 454
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Clifton Hill
Registrant State/Province:VIC
Registrant Postal Code:3068
Registrant Country:AU
Registrant Phone:+61.390057668
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:backoffice@copycontrol.org
Admin ID:90b4178726be119d
Admin Nameomain Manager
Admin Organization:Copy Control Pty. Limited
Admin Street1O Box 454
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Clifton Hill
Admin State/Province:VIC

[moogie]

Great post. Even though we have received our paypal back from paypal. Any filehost that has been harassed by Robert King, or his company copy control, and his harassment affected your business, I advise you to report the account stopfilelockers@websitepayments.com.au for his harassment activity to paypal, for violation of their AUP and TOS:

9. Restricted Activities.
9.1 Restricted Activities. In connection with your use of our website, your Account, the PayPal Services, or in the course of your interactions with PayPal, other Users, or third parties, you will not:

e. Act in a manner that is defamatory, trade libelous, threatening or harassing;
f. Provide false, inaccurate or misleading information;

I think if a handful of you of the 500 or so he says he had canceled, messaged paypal about his activities, he can have a taste of his own medicine.

He loves feeding the morons at GFY. They believe anything, even how he had mediafires PP account taken, when at torrentfreak, mediafire clearly stated they stopped using paypal before any action was taken. Also, how he got POSOnline.it's merchant accounts taken away. Hmm. just visited the site, looks like they're operating normally. He also was responsible for Killing Filereactor. (LOL?) He probably will try to claim he was responsible for RG's CC troubles as well. If he actually had anything to do with any merchant accounts, or visa or mastercard, why would he need to spam his twitter account with his 'avangate' posts?

StopFileLockers Why does @avangate process payments for merchants who distribute pirate software from their other customers ? #piracy #eCommerce #copyright
2 days ago ? reply ? retweet ? favorite
StopFileLockers Did you know that @avangate profits from software piracy ? #copyright #piracy #eCommerce #B2C
2 days ago ? reply ? retweet ? favorite

If he had any type of influence which he tries to lead all those idiots at GFY, why couldn't he just deal with Visa and MC directly? Hmmm.

This guy is so pathetic. Doing anything he can to make the lemmings at GFY think he's the one responsible for anything that happens to any filehost. and they believe he actually had anything to do with any of those. Time to beg for money again I guess. He must have to have some pretty expensive documents drafted, or go on some trips for his 'meetings' in south east asia. You know there are some big mainstream rightsholders there, that are dying to get onboard his project. He still wont say how much Manwin has given him. Also theres some posts at GFY which discovered that manwin run some pretty large file lockers, to which he posts nothing about. Another Hmmmm.

Also to the big girl RubyGoodnight, no, we aren't cheating anyone, if their stats suck, their stats suck. End of story. We elected to have our threads closed here. Get your stories straight.

By the way Robert, that legal document you said you were sending me last week. Hmm. strange thing. It never came? In the mail still I presume?