All that PayPal vs filelockers situation...

[Djlatino]

Good, because nobody was trying to "fool you". The bottom line is your theft business model is pathetic, and the hammer is going to drop on you. Until you change your business model to something that doesn't completely f**k the people you're stealing from, you're going to continue to find yourself facing a heap of legal consequences. Speaking of "incentive", you think the incentive to shut down illegal distribution and bring back legitimate profits doesn't have any merit? You seem to think that because YOU make money stealing other people's content and selling it to Squillion, Pigsonic, Rapidshare, etc. that's the only incentive that should hold any weight?

Yeah, sure. Like I'm going to let you commit robbery, and sit and listen to the s**t you talk when I try to stop you.

Nobody cares how immoral you think the adult industry is, or how immoral Hollywood is, or how immoral Microsoft is. In fact, nobody gives a rip what you think unless you actually created the content yourself.

"Fair use"? "Safe harbor"? Go brush up on your laws, because when there's willful infringement... you're the one with the target on your back. Go back to law school... You obviously flunked out on the most basic intro classes.

Oh yeah, and the whole "it won't stop, so you shouldn't do anything to try" argument is pretty funny.

Auto Industry: You shouldn't install seatbelts because PEOPLE will still DIE! You shouldn't install air bags... people will still die!

Parachutes: You shouldn't use a parachute when jumping from an airplane, because people will still die!

Police: You shouldn't investigate crime, because people will still commit crime!

Love reading this stuff... it never gets old.

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So you're telling us that the file lockers are making changes like this to their terms of service... over falsely named files meant to fake people out? And you know this how, exactly?

You might want to inform the file lockers and their processors that what resides on their server actually isn't illegal content, because the way they're being brought down... it sounds like it all might be just a mistake. It would be a sad, sad day for such law-abiding businesses to bite the dust over something silly like profiting from c*** exploitation. Safe harbor, right?

You should write a book on proper takedown procedure etiquette. You sound like such a wealth of knowledge... Are you an attorney?

LOL Its funny cause you only contradicted half my statements, all good though. And I have nothing against any other company, the hell I support them by all means, I just don't believe they can stop it. You guys are lying down on a rock of hope, thats all. Optimism, that maybe one day, your actions will make your pockets bigger because the 0.1% of your earnings are getting taken by THEIVES! HOW DARE THEY! ZOMG! THESE, THESE, THEIVES!

Just to be clear so you don't think I'm like every other cash whore around town, I've earn wait for it.........


$48 USD in 3 years.
I just want to get that out of the way before you start making false accusations.


Now this is my counter-attack as you may say:


Kinda reminds me of the whole KONY 2012 thing, BUY DUH FREE AKSHUN KIT BRAH SAVE TEH KIDS!
Watch this, this is exactly what I think about your whole little "campaign". Get the message out of the video, be open-minded. And please do watch it or you won't get the state of mind I'm in.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1FKS1SHSsc[/ame]

Skip to 0:26 if you wanna know where I'm going with this.

Instead of going to authorities like a normal fucking person, lets shut down the people who hold the CP.
This logic is equivelent to being like:

Ohai, drug money is being held at THIS bank! lets destroy the bank! maybe then it'll stop this madness!

or

Lets shut down this car mechanic shop! they fix the bad mans car so therefore they're the bad people!

Your guy's problem is you have liability mixed up.

/thread.

FYI, I suggest you "GFY" guys leave, [sarcasm]the level of maturity by showing up in these places like TF and here is off the charts![/sarcasm]

[tvg]

How much do u spend monthly on legal entertainment?

Ofcourse u can only if ur filthy rich.

But for ppl living in developing countries etc. we see pirated content , go to movies if their are watchable not CRAP produced for the sake of it

[Synergize]

How much do u spend monthly on legal entertainment?

Ofcourse u can only if ur filthy rich.

But for ppl living in developing countries etc. we see pirated content , go to movies if their are watchable not CRAP produced for the sake of it

Buddy... there seems to be a disconnect here. Is there static on the line, or something? I'm going to try hard to help you understand where this problem lies. I'm going to speak slowly... and in plain English. I'm going to use simple words.

The problem is not that people are simply consuming stolen media, or that people are uploading stolen media. It's that the process is accelerated 10000's of times because... WAIT FOR IT... people are getting PAID to do it.

And people are getting paid to distribute it.

And the file locker industry is a BILLION dollar industry. The smallest ones make over $10 million USD per year, and the largest ones make over $100 million per year. Now... let's extrapolate this. There are THOUSANDS of file lockers. This is no small issue.

Is it clear to you now? It's easy to make huge money when you're scraping the internet for everything of value, and shoveling it by the truckload onto your sites... and flooding the internet with links on every forum. No shit, it's easy...

But here's where I have a problem. When I'm the guy doing the work, and I'm no longer making anything off my work. My incentive is now gone. Media is now not being produced, because it is being stolen from us... and surfers would rather download something FREE than download something that would otherwise cover my expenses to create it.

So I frankly don't care how poor your family is, or how impoverished your country is... or what kind of a mule you till your fields with. The bottom line is that entertainment is not your God given right, it is something special... and my work is not to be pissed on.

What I find extremely ironic and laughable is one of the most common and overused arguments for supporting piracy; I would pay for your content if it was higher quality. Oh yeah?!?!

And then you upload it to Filesonic, and sell it yourself.

Now that is the definition of an ironic existence. My content isn't good enough for me to sell, but it's perfectly fine for you to sell. And then you try to tell everyone it's "fair use". LOL!

Simply pathetic.

[Kw3rLn]

LOL Its funny cause you only contradicted half my statements, all good though. And I have nothing against any other company, the hell I support them by all means, I just don't believe they can stop it. You guys are lying down on a rock of hope, thats all. Optimism, that maybe one day, your actions will make your pockets bigger because the 0.1% of your earnings are getting taken by THEIVES! HOW DARE THEY! ZOMG! THESE, THESE, THEIVES!

Just to be clear so you don't think I'm like every other cash whore around town, I've earn wait for it.........


$48 USD in 3 years.
I just want to get that out of the way before you start making false accusations.


Now this is my counter-attack as you may say:


Kinda reminds me of the whole KONY 2012 thing, BUY DUH FREE AKSHUN KIT BRAH SAVE TEH KIDS!
Watch this, this is exactly what I think about your whole little "campaign". Get the message out of the video, be open-minded. And please do watch it or you won't get the state of mind I'm in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1FKS1SHSsc

Skip to 0:26 if you wanna know where I'm going with this.

Instead of going to authorities like a normal fucking person, lets shut down the people who hold the CP.
This logic is equivelent to being like:

Ohai, drug money is being held at THIS bank! lets destroy the bank! maybe then it'll stop this madness!

or

Lets shut down this car mechanic shop! they fix the bad mans car so therefore they're the bad people!

Your guy's problem is you have liability mixed up.

/thread.

FYI, I suggest you "GFY" guys leave, [sarcasm]the level of maturity by showing up in these places like TF and here is off the charts![/sarcasm]

He will donate the rest of the money to charity.

[Djlatino]

Ya thats what the KONY guy said Nevertheless, the rest of my argument still stands.

EDIT:

Where does it say that he's/they're giving it to charity?

EDIT 2:

Synergize, Mah nigga where did you go? you just left me without a response! That's rude

[moogie]

but the fact of the matter is, nobody will buy your content even if they couldnt get it for free. It just sucks!

Sorry buddy.

Buddy... there seems to be a disconnect here. Is there static on the line, or something? I'm going to try hard to help you understand where this problem lies. I'm going to speak slowly... and in plain English. I'm going to use simple words.

The problem is not that people are simply consuming stolen media, or that people are uploading stolen media. It's that the process is accelerated 10000's of times because... WAIT FOR IT... people are getting PAID to do it.

And people are getting paid to distribute it.

And the file locker industry is a BILLION dollar industry. The smallest ones make over $10 million USD per year, and the largest ones make over $100 million per year. Now... let's extrapolate this. There are THOUSANDS of file lockers. This is no small issue.

Is it clear to you now? It's easy to make huge money when you're scraping the internet for everything of value, and shoveling it by the truckload onto your sites... and flooding the internet with links on every forum. No shit, it's easy...

But here's where I have a problem. When I'm the guy doing the work, and I'm no longer making anything off my work. My incentive is now gone. Media is now not being produced, because it is being stolen from us... and surfers would rather download something FREE than download something that would otherwise cover my expenses to create it.

So I frankly don't care how poor your family is, or how impoverished your country is... or what kind of a mule you till your fields with. The bottom line is that entertainment is not your God given right, it is something special... and my work is not to be pissed on.

What I find extremely ironic and laughable is one of the most common and overused arguments for supporting piracy; I would pay for your content if it was higher quality. Oh yeah?!?!

And then you upload it to Filesonic, and sell it yourself.

Now that is the definition of an ironic existence. My content isn't good enough for me to sell, but it's perfectly fine for you to sell. And then you try to tell everyone it's "fair use". LOL!

Simply pathetic.

[examan345]

why doesnt GFY people get banned from this forum?
all they do is troll and start huge argument in threads

[Djlatino]

They never answered my post T_T

[THEAST]

They're busy getting screwed in their backdoors and filming it...

[Lifetalk]

Well as long as OP didn't shamelessly plug his site link in this thread, I'm fine with it. Besides, the adult industry is slow to learn and pick on things. It's how it has been, it's how it is, and it's how it will be. It'll be a while before they realize that what they're trying to do is not going to get them anywhere. But sure, if you want to waste time and money doing it, go on ahead and give your fellow 'webmasters' that ray of hope they've been hunting for, well, forever now. Good luck.