Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post


I wouldn't call losing 75% of userbase in one year a "progress"...
Alexa? Seriously? You're going to use a third party service, that calculates its stats based on how many people use its toolbar, to draw the conclusion that Rapidshare has lost 75% of its userbase? That's pathetic, and quite an idiotic reasoning right there.

Alexa's stats are guesstimates. Nothing more.

Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
lol at lifetalk reasoning.... hilarious

You really believe at what you said?
I'd be stupid to type out a post and not believe in it, now wouldn't I?

Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
That ANY file-host isn't dependant on warez?
What do you think, what creates traffic and downloads on any file-host? Text files? Lyric?
No. Read what I wrote. Rapidshare is not dependent on warez file uploaders. If they are, they are not dependent on those who do it for the cash.

Filesonic, Fileserve, etc and the rest are dependent on warez uploaders and will go down very soon. I don't suppose you need me to give you reasons on why I believe that.

Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
What exactly is there to be shared, that can produce lots of traffic, sales, money, and it is legal at the same time? Name few things...ok, name one.
Allow me to name just one - Firefox 4. Did you look up their statistics? 15.x million downloads just after release. There's tons and tons of stuff out there that is legal, can be shared using Rapidshare's infrastructure, and would earn Rapidshare loads of cash.

Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
Don't be funny, Rapidshare became popular thanks to warez, and it will remain, because of that. But they are falling down slowly, because habit left. They were number one for 4-5 years.
I didn't disagree anywhere in my post that Rapidshare's popularity is due to warez uploads/uploaders. I whole-heartedly agree with that. My point is simple - the cashwhores. None of us know the first thing about Rapidshare's internal statistics and/or growth/decline. So none of us should drawn staunch conclusion based on 3rd party statistics alone.

Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
Lots of people bought long time accounts, and use them slowly. That is why rapids are invented. To use them slowly. To prevent unlimited downloading. Now, when they emptied their database, and most of their servers cost more to be turned on, than produce capital, they are attracting users back again with unlimited download.
That's called marketing. Every company does that. Filesonic is paying uploaders 80% of the money they earn from premium users. Is it because they are declining and their servers are costing them more than they can earn? No. It's because almost every company exists for one reason - profit. Rapidshare is not a charity. They're profiting (which is the reason they are in business). They want to profit more, so they're rolling out promotions. What's the wrong in that? I do that a lot with my own businesses.

Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
It is all part of the strategy, game for clevers. Hats off, they took shitload of money, thanks to warez. But ever since majority of warez uploaders abandoned them since they can't even keep their account, because they are terminating them, nothing left for uploaders at all.
That's why they kept all files I uploaded, on their servers, to produce more sales, while I got 16 accounts terminated.
That, unfortunately, is your loss. Don't be stupid. Rapidshare's policy disallows copyright infringing uploads. They did what they had to, to save their ass. Every filehost would/will do that. You can't expect a filehost to go through the legal trouble just so you can keep your account, do you?


EDIT: The uploaders do not dictate what filehost will live/die. The uploaders simply go with the flow and move on to the next filehost that pays them the most. Want proof? The uploaders did not dictate Hotfile's future. The media group suing Hotfile's ass did. They sued hotfile -> hotfile fucked over uploaders -> the uploaders cried -> they had no choice and had to move to filesonic/fileserve.

So, where do the uploaders stand? Nowhere. Once (and it's only a matter of time) a precedent is set against filehosts rewarding uploaders with cash, they'll have nowhere to go. Then, it'll be uploading in exchange for goodwill, and nothing more. We'll see, then, how many uploaders are dictating what.