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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post


    I wouldn't call losing 75% of userbase in one year a "progress"...
    Alexa? Seriously? You're going to use a third party service, that calculates its stats based on how many people use its toolbar, to draw the conclusion that Rapidshare has lost 75% of its userbase? That's pathetic, and quite an idiotic reasoning right there.

    Alexa's stats are guesstimates. Nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
    lol at lifetalk reasoning.... hilarious

    You really believe at what you said?
    I'd be stupid to type out a post and not believe in it, now wouldn't I?

    Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
    That ANY file-host isn't dependant on warez?
    What do you think, what creates traffic and downloads on any file-host? Text files? Lyric?
    No. Read what I wrote. Rapidshare is not dependent on warez file uploaders. If they are, they are not dependent on those who do it for the cash.

    Filesonic, Fileserve, etc and the rest are dependent on warez uploaders and will go down very soon. I don't suppose you need me to give you reasons on why I believe that.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
    What exactly is there to be shared, that can produce lots of traffic, sales, money, and it is legal at the same time? Name few things...ok, name one.
    Allow me to name just one - Firefox 4. Did you look up their statistics? 15.x million downloads just after release. There's tons and tons of stuff out there that is legal, can be shared using Rapidshare's infrastructure, and would earn Rapidshare loads of cash.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
    Don't be funny, Rapidshare became popular thanks to warez, and it will remain, because of that. But they are falling down slowly, because habit left. They were number one for 4-5 years.
    I didn't disagree anywhere in my post that Rapidshare's popularity is due to warez uploads/uploaders. I whole-heartedly agree with that. My point is simple - the cashwhores. None of us know the first thing about Rapidshare's internal statistics and/or growth/decline. So none of us should drawn staunch conclusion based on 3rd party statistics alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
    Lots of people bought long time accounts, and use them slowly. That is why rapids are invented. To use them slowly. To prevent unlimited downloading. Now, when they emptied their database, and most of their servers cost more to be turned on, than produce capital, they are attracting users back again with unlimited download.
    That's called marketing. Every company does that. Filesonic is paying uploaders 80% of the money they earn from premium users. Is it because they are declining and their servers are costing them more than they can earn? No. It's because almost every company exists for one reason - profit. Rapidshare is not a charity. They're profiting (which is the reason they are in business). They want to profit more, so they're rolling out promotions. What's the wrong in that? I do that a lot with my own businesses.

    Quote Originally Posted by cvrle77 View Post
    It is all part of the strategy, game for clevers. Hats off, they took shitload of money, thanks to warez. But ever since majority of warez uploaders abandoned them since they can't even keep their account, because they are terminating them, nothing left for uploaders at all.
    That's why they kept all files I uploaded, on their servers, to produce more sales, while I got 16 accounts terminated.
    That, unfortunately, is your loss. Don't be stupid. Rapidshare's policy disallows copyright infringing uploads. They did what they had to, to save their ass. Every filehost would/will do that. You can't expect a filehost to go through the legal trouble just so you can keep your account, do you?


    EDIT: The uploaders do not dictate what filehost will live/die. The uploaders simply go with the flow and move on to the next filehost that pays them the most. Want proof? The uploaders did not dictate Hotfile's future. The media group suing Hotfile's ass did. They sued hotfile -> hotfile fucked over uploaders -> the uploaders cried -> they had no choice and had to move to filesonic/fileserve.

    So, where do the uploaders stand? Nowhere. Once (and it's only a matter of time) a precedent is set against filehosts rewarding uploaders with cash, they'll have nowhere to go. Then, it'll be uploading in exchange for goodwill, and nothing more. We'll see, then, how many uploaders are dictating what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetalk View Post
    Alexa? Seriously? You're going to use a third party service, that calculates its stats based on how many people use its toolbar, to draw the conclusion that Rapidshare has lost 75% of its userbase? That's pathetic, and quite an idiotic reasoning right there.
    While alexa stats are by no means completely accurate, they are kind of web standard of estimating website popularity ( and the more visitors website has, the lesser margin of error it is. That's the same way presidental elections estimates are presented few minutes after voting is over -even if not everyone is using alexa toolbar, if you ask for every 100th person about their vote, then you can get quite correct estimate of final results, which will be known after few days when all votes are counted.
    Even assuming 50% margin of error ( which would be huge by statistics' standards ) rapidshare lost half of it's userbase in one year, and it keeps declining.
    Quote Originally Posted by lifetalk View Post
    Another dumb post. You're way off comparing filehosts with social networking. The former pays cash for illegal uploads. The latter is used to connect with people/friends.
    Personally i see many similarities between those two.
    Quote Originally Posted by lifetalk View Post
    Allow me to name just one - Firefox 4. Did you look up their statistics? 15.x million downloads just after release. There's tons and tons of stuff out there that is legal, can be shared using Rapidshare's infrastructure, and would earn Rapidshare loads of cash.
    What's the point of using rapidshare to download firefox, if you can download it directly from mozilla website, where you have guarantee that it's not infested with malware, and you don't have to wait 45 seconds or pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetalk View Post
    All the new hosts are crappy. Look at them - they don't and they never will have the level of infrastructure that Rapidshare has. Rapidshare has survived the test of time - that is something none of these new hosts will survive.

    Look at hotfile. Right before your eyes it went up and came crashing down. The hosts you now put your trust in so much (fileserve, filesonic, etc etc) are headed along the same route. They will go down. It is only a matter of time. When they're down - the only strong host still standing will be Rapidshare.

    Do you guys seriously think Rapidshare ever depended on you cashwhores for its survival? If that was the case, Rapidshare would have gone Hotfile's route with a serious and a rapid decline in usage. Yet, that is not the case. Rapidshare is still strong, still innovating, still online. And it will stay that way. Rapidshare does not depend on warez uploaders for their survival. And if you looked at their news page, you'd know they've progressed much more now than they would have back when they had cashwhores uploading to them.

    Having said that, disagree with me all you want. The truth, unfortunately, is more than obvious to anyone who isn't crazy enough to just conclude based on statistical numbers. Time, (un)fortunately, will show you which filehost is the strongest out there.
    Been saying this for a long time now. Good to see another person saying it now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    ^this.

    Other filehosts should take this as lesson. Don't fuck with your affilates.




    I wouldn't call losing 75% of userbase in one year a "progress"...
    hahaha you gotta be kidding me. I hope you posted alexa as a joke. Alexa says tv intent is +1800% for 1 month. It has lost visitors. Like 50%...Rapidshare lost all the kids going to their site (with the alexa bar) and running remote uploads hammering the servers. They are probably making more money now saving on servers and having actual paying clients.

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